<mingus> emacs is /da-bomb/ <mingus> it's exactly all the things i wanted vim to be but never was <glyph> mingus: the sad part is, it's exactly all the things bram wanted vim to be but never was; vim is the trophy of ignorance's triumph over laziness <glyph> but hey, it's, uh, faster to start % <dash> slyphon: sure, but this has happened before <slyphon> dash: when? <symbiont> glyph: such as the working people paying off debt <slyphon> dash: and how many vetoes <dash> slyphon: dagnab it <dash> slyphon: you're harshing my rhetorical buzz <slyphon> dash: you have taught me well <slyphon> ;) <dash> hracht! i gotta stop teaching you stuff. % <slyphon> why is it that when women get pms and they give you a hard time about nothing that the _LAST_ thing on _EARTH_ you can suggest to them is that they might be the teensiest, weensiest bit on edge because they have PMS? <Yosomono> slyphon: Because you are basically telling them that their feelings are the result of chemical imbalance, and therefore unimportant. <slyphon> BUT THEY ARE! <saph_w> slyphon: because it belittles what they're feeling to being simply a hormonal response <Yosomono> slyphon: Good luck buddy. % <MFen> i think i've finally become an abstronaut <MFen> i'm able to break source into its fundamental abstractinos <MFen> pretty soon i'll be writing a mud engine just so i can rewrite it again from scratch % <dash> what the heck, i think i pushed the wrong button in emacs <dash> "Pinging loginfo.py (Paraguay)..." % <symbiont> btw, i've noticed that the word "federated" is not in the Twisted source tree, should i file a roundup on this issue? % <saph_w> i suppose he would have to find a good contact to the underground prior to his cat transformation so he can purchase a wig there % <cyli> Is Michael Eisner Trent Eisner's son? [Since people keep asking about this one, say it slowly: Trent Reznor. Trent rEznor. Trent Eizner. Get it? -ed] % <Yosomono> You guys need to stream pycon online. <dash> Yosomono: all the other people trying to use the wifi would hate us <Yosomono> dash: It should be a standard feature of the con. <dash> Yosomono: Maybe so. <Yosomono> dash: This is the year 2004 for cripesake. <saph_w> Yosomono: maybe the japs should give us our fucking flying cars, then we'll talk about streaming video! % <jml> there's a book out called 'implementing CIFS' <jml> anyone want to buy it for me? <exarkun> why didn't they just implement CIFS and sell a CD containing the implementation? <jml> because people like me would re-implement it anyway % <lemonodor> it's canadian, you know. <lemonodor> er, i mean, written in lisp. % * radix sads at spacelessness <moshez> radix: don't sad <moshez> radix: happy at contentfulness % <phobos> but like, when you were 16-22, (maybe you still are), most sexual contact you obtained was through just 'hooking up', i.e. meeting someone at a party, stoned and/or drunk, and doing things for the night only, right? <maciej> phobos: no, most sexual contact I obtained was with myself <maciej> and that was a long-term relationship % * radix remembers twisted.web.html.Interface, feels nostalgia <radix> wait, no. that's not nostalgia, that's horror % <exarkun> chrchr: A great man once called cotton the fabric of our lives. Is that not more important than the fabric of our society? <exarkun> chrchr: For what is society without livelyhood? <jml> exarkun: IRC? % <saph> what is gentoo again? % <MFen> exceptions.ImportError No module named win32com.gen_py.565783C6-CB41-11D1-8B02-00600806D9B6x0x1x2 <czth> i wouldn't name a _dog_ win32com.gen_py.565783C6-CB41-11D1-8B02-00600806D9B6x0x1x2 % <etrepum> Jokes around here tend to get followed by implementations. % <dreid> jml: i thought warner wanted to be a Problem object that can be passed via jelly % <chrchr> PenguinOfDoom: Also, what non-sucky HTTP server? What would you use, besides twisted.web? <glyphG4> chrchr: roxen! <chrchr> glyphG4: Roxen? Really?? <glyphG4> chrchr: no, not really <glyphG4> chrchr: I write all my own crap so I don't have to deal with questions like this % <radix> INSTALL says that panda will take 1-2 hours to compile <radix> <3 C++ <dash> c++, it gives you free time! % <PenguinOfDoom> omfg yes, another weapon to stab radix when he claims that X is useful. <dash> PenguinOfDoom: what's useful-er <MFen> flash cards <MFen> and a rotor to display them very quickly % <KevinMarks> I really like that unicode has a code point for 'snowman with a hat on' % <moshez> but yes, theoretically Ogg could replace tar :) <MFen> you could have subtitles while you're untarring <MFen> "Look! another directory!" % <redheadatwork> Well, our seder consists mainly of the four questions, which I do twice (once the real ones, once a set I make up on the fly), and a lot of food. Sometimes a song. <redheadatwork> And an orange on the seder plate. <furan> Before you you see: <furan> An orange on a cedar plate. <furan> take orange <furan> You cannot take the orange. It is firmly fastened to the cedar plate. <furan> Take plate <furan> You successfully take the cedar plate. <furan> #joiito: the adventure game <furan> "now with graphics!" % <Suw> oh, i'm having problems thinking in english. <Suw> i keep wanting ot type in welsh instead <ChrisDodo> pobol y cwm? <Suw> lol <Suw> dw i'm yn edrych pobol y cwm <Suw> cachu ydy o * ChrisDodo turns on english subtitles <jeanniecool> "probably you'll come?" <jeanniecool> "lol" <jeanniecool> "duh I'm probably about ready to come" <jeanniecool> "catch yo daddy" * shiruken sniffles <shiruken> welsh is such a beautiful language % <cablehead> who would win in a fight between a lion and a monkey ( with a bag of rocks ) <dash> that's boring <dash> ask who would win in a fight between a monkey and a pirate <exarkun> that's boring <exarkun> ask who would win in a fight between a pirate monkey and a bag of lions % <dash> i am trying to get Asterisk to work <dash> it is stabbing me in the face <dreid> yes ... i seem to recall that feature in the documentation % <radix> it's stupid <slyphon> it is? <radix> the proper solution is to use an alternative implementation of time % <radix> So, I guess the reason you chose ftp as a discovery protocol is because it's a semi-ubiquitous anonymous protocol that allows people to communicate? <edsuom> No, because I was stupid % <riptor> flashback to 1945, nazi makes portal (how? who cares), demon pops out, us troops find demon, give it a candybar, name it hellboy <- plot % <dash> i think i want to implement simulacrum in common lisp <exarkun> no <exarkun> go away <dash> i know i know <dash> it's a personal problem <dash> but therapy is expensive % <warner> although.. actually several of my projects are violently battling for the dubious honor of being the least likely to turn into cash % <PenguinOfDoom> saph: What did you write to your mom? <saph> PenguinOfDoom: about being happy that she's home fine from the hospital and how i feel lucky she's ok and stuff <saph> PenguinOfDoom: and i told her that her bonsai will eventually give fruit, but i don't know if she can eat it <itamar> saph: is that a metaphor for grandchildren? % <MFen> exarkun: my brain is the size of a pickup truck <slyphon> HAH <exarkun> MFen: ah! <slyphon> MFen: that's nothin, Jesus built my hot rod! <MFen> hehe <radix> psh <radix> satan *is* my motor! <slyphon> :D <MFen> radix: you HAVE been practicing! % <Logan> Although I'm fighting for it, my boss thinks the customer wants it done in C++ or, even worse, Java. <Logan> But I told him it'd quadruple the cost. :P <PenguinOfDoom> Logan: What does the customer care, anyway? <Logan> PenguinOfDoom: That's what I said. It's like dictating what brand of toothpaste your plumber brushes his teeth with. % <radix> A VoIP server "powered entirely by stabbing, that I made out of this gun I had" % <exarkun> I can't tell if HP-UX sucks /even more/ than last time I used it or if somehow my terminal settings are causing non-deterministic behavior <exarkun> For example! <exarkun> T.................................................................................SSSS........Changing password for jcalder9 on NIS server <exarkun> Old NIS password: <exarkun> I hit <enter> and the tests proceeded <exarkun> Do we call passwd in our tests or something? :) % <itamar> 22 bugs and I'm a free man <PenguinOfDoom> A slave contract under an entymologist? % <slyphon> slyphon: mock mock mock <PenguinOfDoom> slyphon: Did you grab the wrong end of a mockery gun? % <PenguinOfDoom> Being enlightened gentlemen, we split all programming languages into two groups, sucks and doesn't-suck and put all of them into the first group. % <itamar> what are you going to do at cisco? <exarkun> rot and die, I bet <PenguinOfDoom> itamar: IOS debuggery. <exarkun> woo I win % <SamB> what do interfaces do when you call them? is that even allowed? <exarkun> welcome to the year 1973. <exarkun> callable interfaces roam the surface of the earth <exarkun> humanity has fled underground % <dash> consumption does not create wealth, production does <dash> people in China have noticed this, people in America have not <moshez> consumption is good <moshez> dash: creating wealth is not an intristic value <dash> moshez: being naked, cold, hungry, and defenseless isn't either <dash> moshez: but if you don't create wealth, you will be those things! <moshez> dash: are you naked ? <moshez> dash: wait, that came out wrong * moshez hides <dash> i am not h3x <moshez> anyone adds this to quotes, I hunt you down and kill you % * kev wonders if having people checking output by eye counts as a valid unit test <MFen> if you can attach electrodes to them and force them to do it every time <exarkun> and they have to turn red when it fails % <RemyWork> http://web.archive.org/web/20030608082636/http://www.movabletype.org/commercial_license.shtml <RemyWork> I love having to use the wayback machine to see what my rights are % <exarkun> I suspect the performance of this irrelevant task is highly sensitive to implementation decisions % <radix> I just downloaded the fruitiest anime ever <radix> it's .. girly <radix> it's about a girl's school, and about a "sister" system between upperclassmen and lowerclassmen, and .. and... *twitch* <radix> there isn't any hitting! % <mwh> i wonder if i should post an "are you serious" comment <radix> mwh: that's a lot nicer than the comment I was thinking up <radix> which was something along the lines of "Holy shit, I'm sick of the horrible crap that's showing up in this God-forsaken cookbook." % <mamamusings> grades are due by saturday <mamamusings> that means i have to at least pretend to evaluate them <crw> i KNEW teachers talked like this when students weren't around :P <mamamusings> hell, i talk like this when they *are* around <mamamusings> it's good to be tenured % <moshez> On January 8th, 1977, Amber Nicole Benson came into this world -- more <moshez> specifically, she was born in Birmingham, Alabama. <radix> who the heck is she, anyway? <moshez> radix: you know what's shocking? technically, you and I share the same universe <radix> moshez: I fight to make that untrue every day %